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Re: Great Prime Ministers (UK and Australia)

Post by bristleposh » 12 Jan 2020, 10:24

Policies have to be paid for, she made council house sales work for her as opposed to borrowing money from elsewhere the oil money was there what was she supposed to do with it pay off the debt incurred by the previous Labour government of Wilson and Callaghan. It's not rocket science it's simple Economics. Her way worked.
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Post by DoubleRay » 12 Jan 2020, 12:07

bristleposh wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 10:24
Policies have to be paid for, she made council house sales work for her as opposed to borrowing money from elsewhere the oil money was there what was she supposed to do with it pay off the debt incurred by the previous Labour government of Wilson and Callaghan. It's not rocket science it's simple Economics. Her way worked.
I reckon you fancied the draggy old bint. :lol:
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Post by bristleposh » 12 Jan 2020, 13:01

DoubleRay wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 12:07
bristleposh wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 10:24
Policies have to be paid for, she made council house sales work for her as opposed to borrowing money from elsewhere the oil money was there what was she supposed to do with it pay off the debt incurred by the previous Labour government of Wilson and Callaghan. It's not rocket science it's simple Economics. Her way worked.
I reckon you fancied the draggy old bint. :lol:
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Post by trevormans » 12 Jan 2020, 20:29

bristleposh wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 10:24
Policies have to be paid for, she made council house sales work for her as opposed to borrowing money from elsewhere the oil money was there what was she supposed to do with it pay off the debt incurred by the previous Labour government of Wilson and Callaghan. It's not rocket science it's simple Economics. Her way worked.
the problem with almost all her policies was that she achieved some of what was intended, but the collateral damage ( amongst others ,deindustrialisation,north south divide, short termism, insufficient reinvestment, alienation of Scotland, and now the housing crisis,) massively outweighed the benefits

let us not forget that the tory led government has more than doubled the debt it inherited because of the austerity measures. "Simple economics" tells you to invest in times of financial crisis not cut back on everything

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Post by bristleposh » 12 Jan 2020, 21:11

trevormans wrote:
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let us not forget that the tory led government has more than doubled the debt it inherited because of the austerity measures. "Simple economics" tells you to invest in times of financial crisis not cut back on everything
Depends whether you go for Keynes or Friedman
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Post by trevormans » 13 Jan 2020, 16:14

Any milton will do

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Post by bristleposh » 13 Jan 2020, 16:41

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Any milton will do
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Post by azajali43 » 01 Feb 2020, 15:18

Great prime ministers of UK.
1. Edmund. Barton
2. Alfred. Deakin
3. Chris. Watson
4. Andrew. Fisher
5.Joseph. Cook
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Post by trevormans » 02 Feb 2020, 09:14

I have not one bad word to say against any of the fine fellows

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Post by bristleposh » 02 Feb 2020, 10:30

trevormans wrote:
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I have not one bad word to say against any of the fine fellows
I hadn't heard of any of them but a quick Wikipedia check showed their names, but none of their achievements.
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Post by trevormans » 02 Feb 2020, 21:02

dear me and cripes


this is getting serious

I agree totally with bristle


must be the brexit effect

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Post by Lester Bangs » 13 Feb 2020, 10:36

I only know of Gough Whitlam in Australia. He must have been good.

But the prime ministers who affected real change in the UK since the war (whether you like them or not) - are probably

Margaret Thatcher
Clement Attlee
Tony Blair
Harold Wilson
Harold MacMillan
David Cameron

and probably in that order.


Winston Churchill was a war time leader and the rest were just keeping the seat warm until a proper statesperson came along.
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Post by trevormans » 19 Feb 2020, 20:47

Fat Boy Liar has already shown himself to be potentially the worst prime minister ever (which given the previous two is quite an achievement)

his barefaced lies are one thing, his allowing the crook Cummings to control things is another

but his lack of preparedness to put himself and his government under any sot of scrutiny is truly worrying for the democracy of tis country.

democracy is not about a single vote every five years

it is about making yourself accountable to the people on an ongoing basis

he has started in the same way that Nazi government got going in the early thirties

Get elected with lies

find scapegoats

seek to throttle the press (and the BBC)

seek to throttle the courts

get rid of anybody who is not sycophantic irrespective of their skill and achievements

promise the earth and deliver little

deny parliament its true role

speak only in slogans and with hate

never declare precisely your aims,, but always claim victories

when in doubt give out bigger lies

employ racists and do not denounce them


It is truly frightening for democracy

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Post by DaveLister » Yesterday, 19:52

Trev, Johnson is a politician. That's what they do. If you think that anyone else would be different had they been elected, youre deluded.

At least Johnson honoured the will of the people and got us out of Europe
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Post by trevormans » Yesterday, 20:13

perhaps you can tell me what "they" do

nobody should be frightened of scrutiny

what I have pointed out is how democracy is brought down, one step at a time, one step at a time, until it becomes too late

Johnson honours nothing apart from himself

it is truly frightening for democracy

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